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美军为何能在巴境内自由活动?

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发表于 2011-5-3 08:26:26 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
怎么说巴基斯坦也是个独立自主的国家,虽然表示愿和美国共同反恐,但总不会给美军自由通行的权利吧?

据报道,这次击毙本拉登的军事行动是在巴政府不知道的情况下进行的,因为美军方怕走漏消息。美军武装直升机在巴境内飞行去执行任务,难道巴政府的军方竟然不知道?这也太小儿科了吧?那么难道知道了也不敢吱声或做些什么?问题多啊
发表于 2011-5-3 08:48:18 | 显示全部楼层
这里面确实有戏可看。。。。静观故事的进一步曝光。。。。

如果我没听错的话,拉登住的地方离首都只有20公里。美军的直升机要飞200多公里才能到达。。。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-3 09:32:22 | 显示全部楼层
这里面确实有戏可看。。。。静观故事的进一步曝光。。。。

如果我没听错的话,拉登住的地方离首都只有20公 ...
澳洲大头 发表于 2011-5-3 08:48



    目前还没听到巴方有何反应吧?
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发表于 2011-5-3 10:01:56 | 显示全部楼层
怎么说巴基斯坦也是个独立自主的国家,虽然表示愿和美国共同反恐,但总不会给美军自由通行的权利吧?

据报 ...
顺手 发表于 2011-5-3 08:26



你才知道?
实话告诉你吧,美军可以在世界任何地区自由活动,除去

俄、中、伊朗,还有小金同志领导下的朝鲜。

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-3 10:23:46 | 显示全部楼层
你才知道?
实话告诉你吧,美军可以在世界任何地区自由活动,除去

俄、中、伊朗,还有小金同志领导下的 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-5-3 10:01



    这事不是那么简单吧,这里有故事的,嘿嘿
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-3 10:25:52 | 显示全部楼层
你才知道?
实话告诉你吧,美军可以在世界任何地区自由活动,除去

俄、中、伊朗,还有小金同志领导下的 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-5-3 10:01



    直升机的高度是有限的,是不可能逃过巴军方监视的。
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发表于 2011-5-3 10:31:17 | 显示全部楼层
直升机的高度是有限的,是不可能逃过巴军方监视的。
顺手 发表于 2011-5-3 10:25

美军一直在巴境内活动,得到巴的允许。
再说,你们听巴军方说是巴军干的么?
巴说的偶然歪打正着。
奥巴马说是久经策划。
整个事件就一闷葫芦。嘿嘿
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发表于 2011-5-3 10:32:26 | 显示全部楼层
这事不是那么简单吧,这里有故事的,嘿嘿
顺手 发表于 2011-5-3 10:23



是有故事。故事就是巴不敢不让路。
嘿嘿
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发表于 2011-5-3 10:36:36 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1# 顺手

现在说是联合行动。
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110502/wl_nm/us_binladen_usa_pakistan
LONDON (Reuters) – An operation to hunt down and kill Osama bin Laden was run jointly by Pakistan and the United States, Pakistani sources said on Monday, belying perceptions of a rift in relations between the two countries' spy agencies.

Bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan on Monday, ending a nearly 10-year manhunt for the man who orchestrated the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

"Without our involvement, this operation would not have succeeded," one Pakistani official source said.

"Was it possible without our help? No," another Pakistani security official said. "It was a joint intelligence operation."

Pakistan has been reluctant to detail the extent of its involvement in the raid on a compound in Abbottabad, a garrison town north of Islamabad, in an area which is also home to the Pakistan Military Academy.

The announcement by President Barack Obama that U.S. forces had killed bin Laden -- not in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan but rather in the heart of the country -- has also raised questions about how far Pakistan was cooperating in the battle against al Qaeda and other Islamist militants.

A senior U.S. official, quoted on the White House website, suggested at a press briefing that Pakistan had been excluded.

"We shared our intelligence on this bin Laden compound with no other country, including Pakistan. That was for one reason and one reason alone: We believed it was essential to the security of the operation and our personnel.

"In fact, only a very small group of people inside our own government knew of this operation in advance."

Pakistan's High Commissioner to Britain, Wajid Shamsul Hasan, told Reuters, however, that the operation would not have been possible without Pakistan's help.

"NO RIFT"

"It is a joint operation, secretly collaborated, professionally carried out and satisfactorily ended," he said.

"Yesterday's operation has belied all the allegations in the past that the CIA and ISI were not cooperating and that there was a rift between the CIA and the ISI," he said.

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) have had a very public row over recent months, including tensions about drone missile attacks in Pakistan's tribal areas, and the arrest of a CIA contractor after he shot dead two Pakistanis in the city of Lahore.

Yet at the same time, the United States and Pakistan have moved closer together in their views about the need for a political rather than military solution in Afghanistan.

Official sources from three different countries have said the United States had begun talking to the Taliban to try to reach a political, rather than military, settlement in Afghanistan -- something long demanded by Pakistan.

One official source said however that it would be wrong to suggest that Pakistan had "done a deal" with the United States, under which it might have delivered bin Laden in return for greater American acceptance of its position on Afghanistan.

"'You give us Afghanistan and we give you bin Laden' would not be a correct statement," he said.

Pakistan's foreign ministry said in a statement that the two countries were determined to cooperate on terrorism after several thousand Pakistanis had died in bomb attacks blamed on al Qaeda linked militants.

Pakistan's High Commissioner to London said that discussions on the raid would have come up in during a visit last month by ISI chief Ahmad Shuja Pasha to Washington.
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发表于 2011-5-3 12:13:01 | 显示全部楼层
猜测:

1. 美军早已与巴方有默契,即巴方允许美军在必要时进入巴方领空领土进行剿匪活动。所以美军进去基本上畅通无阻。(为了让巴配合反恐,美国没少给钱)

2. 这次行动由于高度机密以及时间上的紧迫,事先并未只会巴方。

3. 拉登住那里,巴方真不知道。这是拉登的狡猾:表面上最危险的地方很可能是最安全的地方,因为人们想不到。

现在问题的焦点成了:拉登能在那里生活,巴政府有没有责任。刚在收音机里听到巴总统讲话:指责巴政府完全没有道理。如果是那样,同样也可以指责美国。我们不知道拉登住在那里,美国的CIA不是也不知道吗?(言下之意,我们已经配合的够可以了,让你的情报机构在这里活动。。。。)
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发表于 2011-5-3 20:40:37 | 显示全部楼层
巴美之间有个反恐协议,估计协议里会有小股美军在巴境内进行反恐活动的条款。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-5-4 10:07:45 | 显示全部楼层
巴美之间有个反恐协议,估计协议里会有小股美军在巴境内进行反恐活动的条款。 ...
社员甲 发表于 2011-5-3 20:40



    问题是,巴官员说击毙本拉登是巴美合作的结果,而美国却说是为保密没让巴知道。显然有一方在说谎。
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发表于 2011-5-4 16:26:56 | 显示全部楼层
这个问题昨天在我脑袋里也转悠了好几分钟。我当时想,这是不是和俄罗斯和以色列派间谍到英国和美国暗杀他们不喜欢的人从本质上是一样的?如果一样的话,以后英美也别说什么了。外逃加拿大的贪官们也好办了。嘿嘿
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