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发表于 2011-4-22 10:54:21 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
设想如果这事情发生在中国,......

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/nyregion/after-suicide-firing-of-princeton-lecturer-is-questioned.html


At Princeton, Questions After Instructor’s Suicide
By LISA W. FODERARO
Published: April 21, 2011
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One Friday morning this month, a security guard showed up at the office of Antonio Calvo, a popular Spanish instructor at Princeton University, to escort him from the building. Friends and former colleagues say Dr. Calvo was abruptly dismissed from his job, and because he lived in the United States on a temporary visa, he faced a compulsory return to his native Spain.
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Friends and colleagues say Antonio Calvo had been dismissed.

Four days later, on April 12, he fatally slashed himself in his Manhattan apartment.

Dr. Calvo’s suicide has devastated a tight community of scholars and students who so valued his generosity and vivacity that they called him St. Antonio. And on the Princeton campus, private grieving has erupted into public recrimination, with Dr. Calvo’s admirers faulting the university for how it handled the episode.

It is unclear what exactly led to Dr. Calvo’s hasty departure from the job. Princeton officials said Thursday that he was on leave at the time of his death but declined to provide other details. “To preserve the privacy of our employees, the university does not speak to matters of personnel, which are not public,” a university spokeswoman, Cass Cliatt, said.

Several former colleagues said that Dr. Calvo, who as a senior lecturer did not have tenure, was being evaluated for reappointment in the department of Spanish and Portuguese languages and cultures, and that a few graduate students and a fellow lecturer had mounted a campaign to block that renewal. As director of the university’s Spanish language program, Dr. Calvo supervised graduate students, most of whom teach undergraduates; the graduate students, his friends said, criticized his management style and singled out comments that they felt were inappropriately harsh.

In one episode earlier this academic year, Dr. Calvo told a graduate student that she deserved a slap on the face, and slapped his own hands together. In another, he jokingly referred to a male student’s genitalia in an e-mail, using a common Spanish expression that implores someone to get to work.

Dr. Calvo also expressed frustration with the graduate students, who he felt did not take their teaching duties seriously, friends said. Angelina Craig-Flórez, a lecturer in Latin American and Iberian cultures at Columbia University, said she last spoke with him at a conference in February.

“He was very upset because he was undergoing a review, which was normal, but some of the graduate students were not following what they had to do,” she said. “Some didn’t even show up to classes that they were teaching, and it’s his responsibility to make sure that the language program runs smoothly.”

Some of Dr. Calvo’s undergraduate students complained this week that Princeton had not been forthright with them about his departure or death. They said they were not notified that he had died until three days later, in an e-mail that said simply that Dr. Calvo “has passed away.”

James Williams, a sophomore from Pittsburgh who took an advanced Spanish class with Dr. Calvo, said that on the Friday the instructor was escorted from the building, the students waited for 30 minutes in the classroom. As they left, they asked the department chairwoman where Dr. Calvo was.

“She said he had to leave early today for personal reasons and that he’d be back next week,” Mr. Williams recalled.

The day before the suicide, the students again waited for Dr. Calvo. After 20 minutes, another professor entered the room and announced that he was taking over the course indefinitely, again citing personal matters that Dr. Calvo was attending to.

After class the following week, Mr. Williams said, the new professor told him that Dr. Calvo had killed himself. Mr. Williams has created a Facebook page titled “Justice for Calvo: Forming a Student Response” and scheduled a strategy session for Saturday. “Definitely more questions need to be answered,” he said.

Dr. Calvo “never seemed to be the type of person who would commit suicide,” Mr. Williams added.

“If there was an indiscretion on his part, this should all be left alone,” he continued. “But if there’s a fault on the part of an individual or group or institution that perhaps treated him unfairly or unethically, that needs to be addressed and actions should be taken.”

At a memorial gathering on Tuesday, students voiced their anger and confusion. “I really want to know more about what happened,” Molly Bagshaw, 19, said. “I want the holes to be filled before I can move on.”

They remembered a lively teacher with a love of colorful shoes and a quick wit. One woman recalled the time that Dr. Calvo charmed bartenders in Toledo, Spain, where he oversaw a summer program, into giving his entire class free rounds of drinks. Another student said Dr. Calvo would stop students on campus to chat about their lives.

“He had such an energy about him,” Mr. Williams said. “He wouldn’t just walk into the classroom. He would bounce.”

Friends of Dr. Calvo said the timing of his dismissal put him in a difficult position. Since he was in the country on a work visa sponsored by Princeton, he would have to find another job — and sponsor — quickly.

“Antonio had lived in the United States for over 10 years and made a life for himself in this country,” said Marco Aponte-Moreno, a former lecturer in Spanish at Princeton who now teaches in England. “The loss of his job also meant that he would have to leave his life in the U.S. behind.”
发表于 2011-4-22 16:48:58 | 显示全部楼层
不知道对自杀的人应该怎样评价.固然有其原因,难道没有别的解决办法了吗?

愿他的在天之灵安息.
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发表于 2011-4-22 19:28:18 | 显示全部楼层
这种事情其实是有百分比的,防不胜防。
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发表于 2011-4-22 20:26:01 | 显示全部楼层
这种事情其实是有百分比的,防不胜防。
问题多 发表于 2011-4-22 19:28



    美国没落的现象之一。自己没有好的教授,又不让高手待下来,这教授心理也太脆了,问教授当心啊
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发表于 2011-4-22 20:41:52 | 显示全部楼层
竞争白热化呀!内情俺也没法评说,不过这讲师的心理是比较脆弱了,因此算不上高手。这种结果太可惜了。
话说回来,有时办公室政治也很卑鄙,当头的无能,自私,滥用权力,敷衍了事,捏造事实,喜欢对他们溜须拍马的,都可能发生,对付他们也很要花费点精力的。。。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-22 21:32:15 | 显示全部楼层
美国没落的现象之一。自己没有好的教授,又不让高手待下来,这教授心理也太脆了,问教授当心啊 ...
rpan 发表于 2011-4-22 20:26



美国大学对待外语教学从来如此。
有些学校根本不设语言学位,比如P 大的东亚学系。

教语言的(大都是外国人),都是不在永聘制度内的助教、讲师。说穿了,就是编外的临时工。
语言不如这些老外的老美们才是编内的文学或历史教授。

这人干了10年了,依然就是一临时语言民工。
自杀既有爱面子的因素,也有被辱的因素。
或者另有隐情。一般来说,学校不会在学期中间突然动用校警强行押送临时工出境,会采用不续约的方式河蟹走人。
P大的这次行动确实费解。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-22 21:35:43 | 显示全部楼层
竞争白热化呀!内情俺也没法评说,不过这讲师的心理是比较脆弱了,因此算不上高手。这种结果太可惜了。
话 ...
大家拿 发表于 2011-4-22 20:41



这个人可能自以为是能管管研究生的小头目。
虽然在那儿教了10年,似乎还没看透美国学生根本不视教外语的助教、讲师为老师。
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发表于 2011-4-22 21:48:23 | 显示全部楼层
这个人可能自以为是能管管研究生的小头目。
虽然在那儿教了10年,似乎还没看透美国学生根本不视教外语的 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-4-22 08:35

他就是即便看透了,恐怕也没辙,总得有个饭碗。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-22 22:01:07 | 显示全部楼层
他就是即便看透了,恐怕也没辙,总得有个饭碗。
大家拿 发表于 2011-4-22 21:48



那他就不该跟那些研究生较劲,应该识时务地巴结一把。
不能如陶渊明家有良田将芜,可发“归去来兮”之叹,就得忍气吞声。
又不肯忍气吞声,也就只有自杀这条道可走了。
世道就是如此。
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发表于 2011-4-22 22:44:01 | 显示全部楼层
那他就不该跟那些研究生较劲,应该识时务地巴结一把。
不能如陶渊明家有良田将芜,可发“归去来兮”之叹 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-4-22 09:01

有的时候忍气吞声也帮不了忙,有本事就顶或开老板,没本事就巴结,可巴结有时也不一定管用,要是碰上比他还会巴结的呢。。。反正有时比较难,不过死绝对不是解决的办法。够惨!
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发表于 2011-4-22 23:54:59 | 显示全部楼层
说到底是个性格比较偏的人,处理人际关系的能力比较低下。到最后和他的学生互相指责开了,这工作还怎么干?

自杀太不值得了,以任何理由自杀都是懦弱的表现。
也许在一些特定的情况下,对一些特别的人,活下来真的需要勇气。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-22 23:57:38 | 显示全部楼层
说到底是个性格比较偏的人,处理人际关系的能力比较低下。到最后和他的学生互相指责开了,这工作还怎么干? ...
袜贩 发表于 2011-4-22 23:54



自杀也需要勇气。估计比活着需要更大的勇气。

除去精神病患者,有几个人敢自杀?嘿嘿
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发表于 2011-4-23 00:10:39 | 显示全部楼层
自杀也需要勇气。估计比活着需要更大的勇气。

除去精神病患者,有几个人敢自杀?嘿嘿 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-4-22 23:57


对正常人来说,自杀当然是需要勇气,甚至是根本就不可想象的。但却是有些特殊的人,在特殊的情况下正好相反。你可以说他们有精神方面的问题(或疾病)。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-23 03:35:56 | 显示全部楼层
对正常人来说,自杀当然是需要勇气,甚至是根本就不可想象的。但却是有些特殊的人,在特殊的情况下正好相 ...
袜贩 发表于 2011-4-23 00:10



你把但凡自杀的,都定义为精神病患者。
也就没什么勇气不勇气的问题了。嘿嘿
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发表于 2011-4-23 03:46:22 | 显示全部楼层
你把但凡自杀的,都定义为精神病患者。
也就没什么勇气不勇气的问题了。嘿嘿 ...
柞里子 发表于 2011-4-23 03:35


这个问题我是这么看的, 精神病(不是神经病,呵呵)有轻有重,比较轻的就是思维说话有点别扭,怪异的。这种人基本上都是混在普通人中间。特别严重的当然就完全丧失作为一个人的思维能力,也就丧失了生活和自理能力了。我觉得轻度的精神病患者可能心理医生可以帮助医治,但重患者可能只能进精神病院了。


心理方面有问题的当然应该包括在轻度精神疾病患者里了。
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